Mysql 5.6+ Require as part of upgrade path

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Last Post: January 29, 2019   (RSS)

By kitsguru - January 16, 2019 - edited: January 16, 2019

When you start to require PHP 7+, I believe an upgrade to MySql 5.6+ is in order.

 With that being said, it would be a great time to switch to INNODB as the default engine instead of ISAM. There are many benefits to INNODB that warrant the switch.

Jeff Shields

By Dave - January 16, 2019

Hey Jeff, 

Yea, I agree.  That's on our wish list as well.  I think it's something we'll likely revisit this year.  I'm hesitant to require too many upgrades and there's a significant time cost for us to upgrade and test the code, which takes time away from development of other features.  So usually what we try to do is do it when we're updating the code anyways, such as if/when we update the database libraries.

Dave Edis - Senior Developer

I have a plugin that converts all the CMSB tables to INNOB and been using it for almost 2 years. It fixes a number of issues that I have reported in the past such as index to long. Also my benchmarks show significant performance boosts.

One  issue I had was when two people were updating the same section at the same time. ISAM does table locking and INNODB does record level locking which solved that issue as well.

Jeff Shields

By Dave - January 18, 2019

Thanks Jeff, 

Could you post the plugin or email it to me at and I'll take a look?  

And a couple questions: 

- What advantage does table vs row locking have in your application? (speed?)

- What v5.6 features are you using that are not in v5.5? 

I'm wondering if we could have an option for innodb as a way to soft-launch it. 

Dave Edis - Senior Developer

By mark99 - January 29, 2019

Worth noting that there are some huge web hosting companies out there (e.g. 1and1 / ionos) that for some reason still only give their clients access to MySQL 5.5 databases. Heaven knows why but I'm stuck in that boat of waiting for this to change before we can adapt our own site (sadly changing host isn't currently a viable option).

That may be true about hosts not updating all their servers. It might be worth asking if you can migrate to a new server, usually offerred for free. however you aren’t required to upadte CMSB either. I was pointing out if PHP 7.1 is required, may as well moved to MySql 5.6 as well.

Jeff Shields

By Dave - January 29, 2019

Hey Guys, 

Thanks for all the feedback and insights.  I think what we'll do is add a feature so users can enable this on an opt-in basis to begin with.  That way it covers all the possible scenarios.


Dave Edis - Senior Developer