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carminejg3
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Jul 8, 2008, 8:56 PM
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I have noticed that when we moved over to artman2 that some weird things have happened.
For one a category page named www.website.com/motorcycles.shtml has become www.website.com/motorcycles/index.shtml
This is not good when you have upwards of 2500+ articles and they are all well ranked in the SE's.
I've been looking around the boards and now know I can stay at artman1 or if i decide to move to artman2 i have some work. So could someone please point me in the right direction in fixing the names in artman2.
In addition I've been trying to add new publish rules which is going to be a long process and im not sure if its the correct way or not, but I keep getting "Placeholder is already in use by the following publish rule: Category Indexes" so why cant i use a placeholder over again?
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(This post was edited by carminejg3 on Jul 8, 2008, 9:12 PM)
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Jake
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Re: [carminejg3] Article naming in artman2
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Hi carminejg3,
To set up the type of naming system you described, go to Admin -> Publishing and click the "modify" link for your Category Index publishing rule. In the filename field, this is what's entered now:
<catFile>/index
If you change that to this, the links will use the naming scheme you described:
<catFile>
If you want to use two publishing rules with the same placeholder set name, they can't have any overlap in the "Category Filter" settings. So just make sure that if one rule is set to publish a certain category, the other is set to exclude that category. If you need to have two category index publishing rules creating duplicate versions of the same content, then you have to use two different placeholder set names.
Let us know if you have any other questions. 
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carminejg3
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Jul 15, 2008, 10:08 AM
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thanks this fixes a lot of issues.
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carminejg3
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Jul 22, 2008, 11:32 PM
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Jake I have noticed a lot of other directories were added.
It seems the way to fix this is to create a new publishing rule for each category that this has happened two, is the the right way to do this?
example.
The old file path would be
/car_recalls/pagenamehere.shtml
now its
/car_recall_information/pagenamehere.shtml
or another is /car_information/pagehere.shtml
now is /car_information_here_58/pagehere.shtml
Just seeing if this is the write path?
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Jul 23, 2008, 12:05 PM
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Hi Carmine,
You don't necessarily need to create a whole new publish rule for them. You can just modify the existing ones (and the existing category filenames, if they're not the same) to match your old structure. :)
To duplicate the old filename structure, here's a tutorial that might help:
http://interactivetools.com/docs/doc.cgi?/articlemanager2/tutorials/change_to_old_filenames.html
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Jul 23, 2008, 1:54 PM
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Thanks Donna,
But this wont work since most of my categories we used a file name for and some we created folders. Its that artman2 is making an attempt to clean up our messy art1 installs. So I'm trying to make a list of files that are going to become a problem. And seeing how much work I will have.
I'm almost considering staying with artman1 since we have it on a deicated server, and even though we have about 2600 articles it builds fine. Because in this day, if we lose one really good ranking article its not worth it. And with all the renaming going on its going to take a long time to look through and compare 2600 articles.
I do like that its easy to change things around, and am curious if there is a way to make the prev - next links crawlable for the serps. So I will play with it later on today and see what i can do.
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carminejg3
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Aug 7, 2008, 12:21 AM
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Hmmm...
I'm stuck on the categoryIndex placeholder. within the article list pages.
I have a file that is named auto_news_33.shtml, and artman2 named it say news_file_33.shtml
I excluded the catagory i need to create the new page name for, but when i create a new publishing rule for them and use the categoryIndex placeholder it tells me that its already being used in the categoryIndex but i excluded this category. I also include this category in the new rule.
when i give it a different name it displays this. [unknown%20placeholder%20$published.categoryIndex.url$]
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Aug 7, 2008, 8:06 PM
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Hi carminejg3,
I'd suggest double-checking the category filter settings for your two publishing rules - the "in use" error message should only ever appear when there's duplicate categories set to publish in your two rules. If you can't work this out, feel free to submit a second-level support request and we'll take a look for you:
http://www.interactivetools.com/support/
Don't hesitate to contact us.
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Aug 8, 2008, 10:49 AM
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i will look thanks. So i should be able to have
Cat 1 /default
Cat 2 /default
Cat 3 /use different page same pub rule
Cat 4 /default
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Hi carminejg3,
You can publish your pages in that format, except that "Cat 3" will actually use a different publishing rule (so that you can assign it a different template). It can use the same "placeholder set name" setting however.
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Aug 10, 2008, 4:11 PM
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jake actually, I have found out that the categoryIndex pub rule doesn't allow you to create a second rule using that the sameplaceholder set name. categoryIndex.
I had a ticket in with support but, I didnt get any response so I figured it out myself.
To fix the issue I had to modify each category and change the name within the category option in the admin section.
I did not try to publish to a different directory, simply was trying to convert artman1 to artman2. So maybe the categoryIndex would work if my Cat 3 was going to a different location.
Thanks.
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Hi carminejg3,
You can use the same placeholder set name for two publishing rules, but they must be publishing entirely different sets of categories - you can't have them both publishing any of the same categories as one another, which was likely the condition that was triggering the error message you saw.
It seems like you've got this resolved, but if anything else comes up let us know.
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Aug 11, 2008, 12:59 PM
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Jake,
It may be a minor bug, with an upgrade then. Because I'm really sure that I had exclude the 1 selected in the standard categoryindex pubrule, and selected my one category. Then i created a copy, and changed it to include only the one selected again. and it wouldn't go through. But thankfully i could just modify the category section to get it to work.
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