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DefenceTalk.com
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Oct 21, 2006, 10:34 PM

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In AM 1, we use to publish articles like:

FormatA: article_0009393.php (random number, etc.)

Then swtiched to:

FormatB: file_name_date.php

Doing this did not change the file names for the articles which were published in FormatA.

As of AM 2, that has changed. Everytime you make an article name change in publishing rules, it changes filename of every article which previously had different name.

OldArticleFormat:

This_is_an_example_20061020.php

NewArticleFormat:
/<artFile>_<artNum>00<catNum>.<ext>
which would be: This_is_an_example_20061020_01230012.php

Anyway to keep the old file names as they are and just apply the changes to the future articles, etc.?

Thanks


Dave
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Oct 21, 2006, 10:53 PM

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With publish rules, no, you'd need to either stick to your old format or move over to a new one.

I imagine you had some javascript to fill out your filename field with the random number or date right?

Maybe what you could try is just keeping the publish rule filename simple (eg: <artFile>.<ext>) and updating your javascript to fill in the extra values, except you couldn't get the article num when creating records (because it wouldn't be defined yet) and if you changed the category the category num would still be hardcoded into the filename.

What's the reason you want to change your filename format again?

Dave Edis - Senior Developer
interactivetools.com


DefenceTalk.com
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Oct 21, 2006, 11:02 PM

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I would like to keep it the same, if I can.

Also, the idea of putting articles from each category in its own directory seems nice too and maybe that change is prompting the article name change as well... since old URLS won't be accessible anyway.


Theo
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Oct 22, 2006, 11:53 AM

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What about just going forward with a new naming convention that works better for the future, and just keep your old published files where they are so that old inbound links will still work?


Theo Wiersma
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DefenceTalk.com
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Oct 22, 2006, 12:56 PM

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Hey Theo,

That is one option and I might just go with that.

Thanks! Wink


steveo
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Oct 24, 2006, 3:49 AM

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surely that would give a duplication issue with google?

If you are going to rename files then the old files should be removed.

I would like to keep the old format.. is there a way to do this?


Theo
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Oct 24, 2006, 10:30 AM

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I would like to keep the old format.. is there a way to do this?


Definitely, in fact it's quite easily done. These files will overwrite your Artman 1 published files when you change your publish directory to point to the old location, so make sure you're happy with the naming convention before you move. :)

Go to Admin > Publishing, and click "modify" for the appropriate rule, as below, and change the Published Files/Filename field to match the value as below.

First, you should change your Category Indexes.

Rule: Category Indexes
Filename: cat_index_<catNum>

Then, change your article pages:

Rule: Article Pages
Filename: article_<artNum>

Rule: Article Printer Pages
Filename: printer_<artNum>


Now, if you were publishing your articles to subdirectories based on category, then your article pages should be <catFile>/article_<artNum>, and you should go to each Category and check the filename values to make sure you're happy with where your articles will be going.

All other files are used as server-side includes, so you shouldn't need to change them, but just in case, here's the rules to change, and what filenames to use:

Rule: Global Headlines
Filename: headlines_

Rule: Category Headlines
Filename: cat_headlines_<catNum>

Rule: Grouped Headlines (grouped by category)
Filename: headlines_bycat

Rule: Global Menu
Filename: category_list

Rule: Category Menus
Filename: category_list<catNum>

Rule: Search Box
Filename: search_form

Hope this helps, steveo!


Theo Wiersma
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DefenceTalk.com
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Oct 24, 2006, 8:54 PM

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I've completed the upgrade. The old articles are still on the server but used robots.txt to block search engines from crawling them. So far, it is going pretty good.

http://www.defencetalk.com/news/publish/

Updating the 404 page to direct users to search for the article they are looking for until current database is crawled! Unsure


(This post was edited by DefenceTalk.com on Oct 24, 2006, 8:55 PM)


Theo
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Oct 24, 2006, 10:53 PM

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I've completed the upgrade. The old articles are still on the server but used robots.txt to block search engines from crawling them.


Ah, that's a very clever solution to that issue!


Theo Wiersma
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LawyerFind
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Feb 21, 2007, 11:20 AM

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Ok, I am trying to follow this tutorial, and it makes sense, but I can't get it to change anything.

Our old AM published all files to /publish. The new AM by default publishes the articles into category folders, such as /publish/cat-name. I want to change it so that it was the same as before, as that will easiest for us.

So I changed both Category Indexes and Articles and removed the <catFile>. The articles did seem to publish correctly, however nothing on the site changes. Everything still point to the directories.

What piece of the puzzle am I missing?


Theo
Project Manager / Moderator


Feb 21, 2007, 11:31 AM

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I'm not sure what's missing, but you might just need to re-publish your indexes and category menus.


Theo Wiersma
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LawyerFind
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Feb 21, 2007, 11:35 AM

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I'm not sure what's missing, but you might just need to re-publish your indexes and category menus.


Well, I did that. What rule should I be changing to change the menu and article title links?


Theo
Project Manager / Moderator


Feb 21, 2007, 11:42 AM

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You shouldn't need to update any links, the links should be $published.articlePages.url$, so the path is updated when you update the article pages rule.

Can you tell me the values you have for the "filename" for the following publishing rules?

Global Index
Category Indexes
Article Pages


Those are the only ones that matter.


Theo Wiersma
Project Manager


LawyerFind
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Feb 21, 2007, 11:55 AM

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You shouldn't need to update any links, the links should be $published.articlePages.url$, so the path is updated when you update the article pages rule.

Can you tell me the values you have for the "filename" for the following publishing rules?

Global Index
Category Indexes
Article Pages


Those are the only ones that matter.


Global is set to Single, Filename: index
Category Indexes is set to multiple, I changed it from <catFile>/index to just index
Article Pages I changed it from <catFile>/<artFile> to index

I replublished the Category Indexes and Article Pages. The Global did not change. I think the files publishe correctly, they appear in the Publish directory as they should. But the menu does not change and still points to the category folders.


Theo
Project Manager / Moderator


Feb 21, 2007, 12:03 PM

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You've actually set up colliding files - articlePages and articleLists (for categories) need to have unique identifiers (<artNum> and <catNum>) or they will overwrite each other. Note that we're adding some additional error checking so that future versions will make it harder to accidentally create collisions like this.

Global Index - "index" is fine
Category Indexes - set to "cat_index_<catNum>"
Article Pages - set to "article_<artNum>"
Article Printer Friendly Pages - "printer_<artNum>"

Now, republishing your Category Indexes and Article Pages WON'T change any of the links that point to them. Your menus and Global Index need to be republished as well to update the links with the new filename format. You need to republish your Category Menus (both the Global and the category-specific) and your Global Index. If you don't have many articles, you might just publish-all.


Theo Wiersma
Project Manager

(This post was edited by Theo on Feb 21, 2007, 12:04 PM)


LawyerFind
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Feb 22, 2007, 7:38 AM

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Thanks Theo.

That makes sense. I'll be trying this later today.

Thanks for the help!


LawyerFind
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Feb 23, 2007, 7:28 AM

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This worked great. Then I realized I need the Cats to be the <catFile> so they match our user defined names. Wink

Working on that now.

 
 
 


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