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carextreme
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Feb 27, 2004, 9:00 PM

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I have the clone formmail of matts formmail script. I am trying to hide the email address of the clients who sign up on my website. I have everything set up correct but I get this error:

Go to this page:

http://www.carextreme.com/am/homepages/h0018.html

and just hit submit on the page and look at the error. I tried to modifiy it to make it fit. I tried to add the $lfield4$ field where the email address is and it will not work. It finds the email address like you see on the error page but it wont send the mail cause it's not on the server.

Are there any formmails that will work that will let me hide the email address. I've seen it done but this script wont let me. This is the same as matts script.

thanks


leeshields
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Feb 28, 2004, 8:02 AM

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Re: [carextreme] formmail help [In reply to] Can't Post
Hi

Do you have all your agents set as referers in the formmail, you will need to add them or formmail will block messages, it's an antispam function.

Are you running on unix or IIS?

If your server is on IIS you might find it better to setup an ASP formmail

Hope that helps

Lee
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[url "http://www.apogeetechnology.com"]Apogee Technology[/url]
[url "http://www.johnrhornsby.co.uk"]John R Hornsby[/url]
[url "http://www.adelanteproperties.com"]Adelante Properties[/url]
[url "http://www.villassist.com"]Villassist[/url]
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carextreme
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Feb 28, 2004, 8:38 AM

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Re: [leeshields] formmail help [In reply to] Can't Post
I have all the referers set up correctly. The main problem is that it wont except $lfield4$ as a recipient. It has to be a vaild @domain form. I am needing to know if there is away around this issue or if there is another formmail out there what will work.

ASP forms will not work for what I want to do.

Can someone who has done this help me out. The formmail will need to read a field not a domain name since I do not and will not know everyones sign up domain account when they list their email address to sell a vehicle.


leeshields
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Feb 29, 2004, 6:32 AM

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Re: [carextreme] formmail help [In reply to] Can't Post
Do you mean you have placed $lfield4$ actually inside the formmail script?

Or just in the form page?

If you have it in the formmail script itself it is not parsed by listings manager so cannot work, if you have it in the form page it cannot work as every outgoing email address has to be setup within the formmail script, this can't be done automatically. Both parts have to match.

# @referers allows forms to be located only on servers which are defined #
# in this field. This security fix from the last version which allowed #
# anyone on any server to use your FormMail script on their web site. #

@referers = ('123.456.789.123','mywebdomain.com'); this item is the domain of the site usually

# @recipients defines the e-mail addresses or domain names that e-mail can #
# be sent to. This must be filled in correctly to prevent SPAM and allow #
# valid addresses to receive e-mail. Read the documentation to find out how #
# this variable works!!! It is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. #

@recipients = &fill_recipients('mydomain.com','sombodyelsesdomain.com'); this has to contain all the domains of people the form will email, eg hotmail.com, yahoo.com, apogeetechnology.com etc etc etc

This is where your problem lies i suspect, as a user signs up, his email domain must be added here as well as in the form itself, if not the script will block it, this is a vital security measure, if not checked, anyone could send emails via your web server, very nasty (they actually have tools to search for formmail scripts to try and do this, matts original ones (1.90 and lower) are very vulnerable.

Another tip is to name the script something other than formmail, like mymlscr.pl, this makes it harder to find automatically.

Hope this helps

Lee
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Lee Shields
[url "http://www.apogeetechnology.com"]Apogee Technology[/url]
[url "http://www.johnrhornsby.co.uk"]John R Hornsby[/url]
[url "http://www.adelanteproperties.com"]Adelante Properties[/url]
[url "http://www.villassist.com"]Villassist[/url]
[url "http://www.paulswithey.co.uk"]Paul Withey Estate Agents[/url]
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Donna
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Feb 29, 2004, 4:51 PM

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Hi carextreme!

Thanks for your post. :)

First, make sure that where you're entering the $lfield4$ field is actually a Listings Manager created page -- it's actually going into one of the templates, not into a formmail script.

Second, make sure that lfield4 does indeed have a properly formatted email address in it.

Third, view the source of your page and see what your source code says -- you can probably get a good idea of what the script is trying to output from there. If you'd like to give us the address of the page having the trouble, I can take a look and see what might be wrong. :)

I hope this helps!

Donna

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carextreme
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Mar 24, 2004, 10:49 AM

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I have tried hours to get this stuff to work. I even uploaded the formmail to the server the way it was when I got it. It says that i need to add carextreme.com to my ref. I add carextreme to my ref and then I get a internal error 500. I tried other formmails and tons of ways to get around it. Can a server block u from using your own formmails? I think that is what they did and I emailed them to find out. I have used formmails tons of times in the past and never had this problem before. Frown


Donna
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Mar 24, 2004, 12:34 PM

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Hi there :)

I'm afraid that if you're having problems getting it to work independently of Listings Manager, there isn't much we're going to be able to do about it.

I hope that your web provider can offer some assistance in that regard. :) However, once you've got the formmail script running, let us know and we'd be happy to give you a hand integrating it into Listings Manager. :)

Donna

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carextreme
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Mar 24, 2004, 6:37 PM

Post #8 of 24 (25598 views)
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Thanks Donna. I think they have some sort of block on using other formmails. They have a built in formmail but wont work for my needs. I sure wish ASP would work!


leeshields
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Mar 24, 2004, 6:42 PM

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I know of several hosting firms that block formmail, it can be very insecure

I got an attack on my server and it went bonkers, so i can see why people are cautious.

What about alternative FM scripts, matts isnt the only option

Ask your ISP



Lee
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Lee Shields
[url "http://www.apogeetechnology.com"]Apogee Technology[/url]
[url "http://www.johnrhornsby.co.uk"]John R Hornsby[/url]
[url "http://www.adelanteproperties.com"]Adelante Properties[/url]
[url "http://www.villassist.com"]Villassist[/url]
[url "http://www.paulswithey.co.uk"]Paul Withey Estate Agents[/url]
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carextreme
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Mar 24, 2004, 6:49 PM

Post #10 of 24 (25595 views)
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I was using other scripts and it would not let them work. Gives me an internal error. Do you know of any other scripts I might try? I will give them a try right now and see if i can get them to work. I can understand blocking matt's but they should not block all of them Frown


leeshields
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Mar 24, 2004, 6:52 PM

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May be that they block anything trying to access sendmail, you may be best speaking to them first.

Re-read my original post though, unless i read it wrong what you were trying to do may not work

Can you get a simple formmail to work? setup a static page with a bog standard FM on and see if it will work for you, that will let you know if the host is blocking it or if it is a bug



Lee
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Lee Shields
[url "http://www.apogeetechnology.com"]Apogee Technology[/url]
[url "http://www.johnrhornsby.co.uk"]John R Hornsby[/url]
[url "http://www.adelanteproperties.com"]Adelante Properties[/url]
[url "http://www.villassist.com"]Villassist[/url]
[url "http://www.paulswithey.co.uk"]Paul Withey Estate Agents[/url]
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carextreme
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Mar 25, 2004, 2:41 PM

Post #12 of 24 (25579 views)
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Re: [carextreme] formmail help [In reply to] Can't Post
I had my host unblock the sendmail so now I have it up and running. The problem I am having now is that the $lfield$ will not get read my the FM script. When I put an email in place of the $lfield$ it reads it and I get an email. It just wont read the $lfield$. You can go to http://www.carextreme.com/am/homepages/h0110.html and read the error.

For the ref in the formmail I have carextreme.com set for it. Should I have anything else?

thanks guys


diver_dan
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Mar 25, 2004, 3:04 PM

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Hi there,

I don't want to send you offtrack if you have nearly solved the problem but we use Phorm extenively with RM to process just about anything. Multiple email confirmations, Autorespnders, Write to text file or Database. It is PHP and uses the phpmail on the server. It is easy to configure. www.phorm.com

Cheers

Dan
Airlie Beach
Australia




leeshields
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Mar 25, 2004, 6:11 PM

Post #14 of 24 (25574 views)
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I think you are going round in circles

As said above, adding $lfield$ to a formmail script will do nothing, listings manager will not parse your formail script to replace the code, adding it to a page will not work unless the referer is already in the FM scrpt.



Lee
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Lee Shields
[url "http://www.apogeetechnology.com"]Apogee Technology[/url]
[url "http://www.johnrhornsby.co.uk"]John R Hornsby[/url]
[url "http://www.adelanteproperties.com"]Adelante Properties[/url]
[url "http://www.villassist.com"]Villassist[/url]
[url "http://www.paulswithey.co.uk"]Paul Withey Estate Agents[/url]
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carextreme
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Mar 25, 2004, 8:35 PM

Post #15 of 24 (25567 views)
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Re: [leeshields] formmail help [In reply to] Can't Post
Hey Lee,

I missed your post above. I have the code in both the FM and on the page. I'll work with it and see what I can do. I'm going to try out that PHP email thing posted above. I will let you guys know how it turns out.

thanks everyone for this help.


carextreme
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Mar 25, 2004, 9:49 PM

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Here is what I have:

This is in the actual page:

<input type=hidden name="recipient" value="$hfield7$,admin@carextreme.com">



This is in the FM

@referers = ('www.carextreme.com','$hfield7$');

Is this correct?


leeshields
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Mar 26, 2004, 3:20 AM

Post #17 of 24 (25541 views)
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That is what I referred to in my first post, FM has nothing to do with listings manager so will not add the data to referers, what you are trying to do cannot work.

You need to find another solution I'm afraid



Lee
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Lee Shields
[url "http://www.apogeetechnology.com"]Apogee Technology[/url]
[url "http://www.johnrhornsby.co.uk"]John R Hornsby[/url]
[url "http://www.adelanteproperties.com"]Adelante Properties[/url]
[url "http://www.villassist.com"]Villassist[/url]
[url "http://www.paulswithey.co.uk"]Paul Withey Estate Agents[/url]
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carextreme
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Mar 26, 2004, 7:21 AM

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I saw it work with that pop up add on script with formmail smoeone posted on here. I did a search for formmail and found it. Called FormManager.

Donna...any ideas? Frown


bcarter
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Mar 28, 2004, 9:52 AM

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Hi, I'm not sure if this will help but here is what I have done so the clients email is not displayed:

On my seller homepages there is a link to send seller an email. On mouse over the status bar displays send seller an email. The only time the email address is displayed is when the users email program opens to create and send the email.

You can see what I've done here. http://www.atlanticcanadarealty.com/homepages/h0001.html

I apologize if this is off course of what you want to accomplish.

Regards,

Brent
Brent
[url]www.atlanticcanadarealty.com[/url]


Donna
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Mar 28, 2004, 1:27 PM

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Hi there!

As far as I know, your script shouldn't need the value of the hfield in the referers -- I'm guessing that hfield7 holds the email address?

The referrer usually just refers to the website you're using it on -- in this case, carextreme.com.

But, since I'm not familiar with the script that you're using, you may want to check the documentation. If you give me a link to the scripts documentation, I can take a look and see if I can tell you what you need to setup. :)

Donna

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carextreme
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Mar 28, 2004, 1:34 PM

Post #21 of 24 (25384 views)
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thanks Donna....I am actually using Matt's script right now cause that is what FormManager was using.

Here is the script information: http://www.scriptarchive.com/readme/formmail.html#setting_up

Alantic....if this formmail will not work, I will end up doing that. Thanks for the advice!


Donna
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Mar 28, 2004, 1:55 PM

Post #22 of 24 (25383 views)
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Hi carextreme :)

Okay, it looks like the problem is with the @recipients field, not the @referrers.

However, as previously mentioned, you can't add a placeholder into the configuration file. So, there's no way that I can see to tell the formmail script what email addresses are allowed without manually going in and adding all of your users email addresses. That's a bit of a pain, I would think. Right now, with the referrers set to carextreme.com, it will only allow a user at carextreme.com as a recipient.

Alas, I can't see any way of giving it a dynamic list of recipients.

The reason the script requires a pre-set recipient list is to prevent evil-doers from using your formmail script for their own nefarious uses -- spamming the unwary from *your* script. I'm afraid they're to blame for your current problem.

I hope this helps. :)

Donna

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carextreme
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Mar 28, 2004, 2:07 PM

Post #23 of 24 (25381 views)
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Re: [Donna] formmail help [In reply to] Can't Post
Thanks Donna. I'm going to look for an older formmail that may not have the recipients field. Crazy

thanks for checking it out for me!


cwheelsone
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Jul 16, 2004, 7:39 AM

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Here's a handy site for form mails - http://www.response-o-matic.com . They generate the code for you and you just copy/paste into your webpage. The forms are very customizable. Cool