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steve_e
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Oct 19, 2006, 4:23 AM

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Hi -
I have a general problem with the Wysiwyg editor concept that I wonder if you could give some help on:

Up till now I've always published articles by creating them in an html editor, then copying and pasting the text into the content box of AM. This way I can be sure that what ends up on the page is good valid html, formatted with CSS.

However, I also don't want to be the bottleneck for publishing articles on the site, and as the only writer with any knowledge of html it seems obvious that I've got to move to some system allowing others to create articles without knowing any html or css.

I've experimented with the wysiwyg editor for AM and also with other wysiwyg systems, but I can't seem to get them to give good quality html and css. I've followed Chet's tutorial showing how to get the editor to use a pre-defined css stylesheet, and this works well as long as you're only applying text formatting to selected text, but I can't get the editor then to put <p> </p> markup into the source (instead it gives basic <b> breaks (double if you hit return twice). There seems no way of formatting a line as <h1> etc.

Am I expecting too much from wysiwyg editing? I've even tried to get MS Word to use a CSS stylesheet, so that writers can prepare the article on their desktop, with some success but not much. MS Word saved passages put all sorts of extra junk into the pasted text.

All I really want is for writers with no knowledge of html to be able to create well structured articles that will pass html and css validation. I'm not sure if I'm looking at it all in the wrong way or what?

Regards, Steve.


Donna
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Oct 19, 2006, 9:59 AM

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Hi Steve!

Thanks for your post. :)

Article Manager uses "Innova" as it's WYSIWYG editor. Take a look at this page for more information about Innova:

http://www.innovastudio.com/

Innova code generally does pass validation, even if it's not quite structured exactly how you'd like it. It's also very customizable, so that you can select which buttons show up on the toolbar. By default, we include the most commonly used ones, but you can modify that as with Chet's tutorial for using CSS.

A WYSIWYG editor is never going to be as perfect as doing it by hand. However, Innova is a pretty darn good editor, and can be customized to almost any specifications -- and it will definitely validate. :)

I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions. :)

Donna

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steve_e
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Oct 20, 2006, 2:34 AM

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Re: [Donna] Wysiwyg published articles [In reply to] Can't Post
Thanks Donna -
Thanks for this. It isn't meant to be a criticism of AM which I've been using for a number of years very happily (and I see you've got a whole brand new version for us to get to grips with now! Smile ). I just don't think I understand how wysiwyg is supposed to work in relation to good practice markup.

A couple more questions anyway. Should I be able to make an html level one heading using the wysiwyg editor? <p>Or put things inside a paragraph like this?</p>

It's only like this that I can see it being possible to use the current tag option in the styles box of the editor. Sorry if that's outside the bounds of AM support. I'll pop over to the Innova site as well, to see if they've got any support documentation.

Regards, Steve.